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Buster 12:15 Thu Mar 5
Marriner

Big time bottle job cunt. Sooner or later Mourinho's whining had to have an effect and this bloke took the bait massively and melted big time.

A £5bn league with £10 officials. Fucking disgraceful.

Sarah Ballpalsy 6:27 Mon Mar 9
Re: Marriner

Yes I agree.


Also a way of fast tracking good refs and giving them needed coaching to reach the top.


Ex players should be be fast tracked too. Not just because they are ex players, but those that show they have a talent for it and can be coached to be good, they shouldn't have to start way down at the bottom.

Alex V 6:26 Mon Mar 9
Re: Marriner

Sarah Ballpalsy 5:51 Mon Mar 9

Seems like a reasonable solution if you want to see a chance of standards raising. Meanwhile, simply punishing/shaming/sacking the current lot does nothing to achieve that.

wrighty 6:23 Mon Mar 9
Re: Marriner

The system of getting to the top is flawed, it takes years of being a hobby before it can be a career choice. A refereeing academy wouldn't be a bad start.

Sarah Ballpalsy 6:20 Mon Mar 9
Re: Marriner

'Not sure their wages are linked to their competence to see split second decisions in a fast paced sport.'



I didn't say they were. Poor refs should be got rid of. By upping wages you attract more people, thereby giving you a better chance of finding better refs. I'm not suggesting you just pay the current crop more

wrighty 6:12 Mon Mar 9
Re: Marriner

Not sure their wages are linked to their competence to see split second decisions in a fast paced sport.

I would place an ex player in charge of the pgmol and ensure he reports on "mistakes" weekly.

Ultimately though referees and linesmen will make mistakes, technology has been good so far and needs to be explored further. The game is too quick to not expect mistakes. Any manager found trying to influence officials as Mourinho does should face a points deduction. Players found cheating should face long bans.

Incompetent referees such as Atkinson should be retrained and mentored. Assessors reports need to be made available too. The public and football world should be able to know what an assessor thinks and why.

Sarah Ballpalsy 5:51 Mon Mar 9
Re: Marriner

Yes up their wages.


Make it clear that in 3 years time refs will get a massive pay rise.

It will attract people to the profession. The more people that are attracted to it the higher the standards would be.

It isn't rewarding poor refs, as poor refs can then be sacked/retrained or whatever. At the moment, the sad fact is the refs in the prem are the best in their profession in this country. A way to improve that is to attract more.

If players coming to the end of their career can see he can still earn a good living from reffing then they are more likely to go for it.

Buster 5:44 Mon Mar 9
Re: Marriner

'The goal line technology is a good example - after years of complaining about how unfair it was, it's been brought in. But it barely makes a jot of difference to the game'

How can you say it's made no difference? Who's to say Sakho's goal against City wouldn't have been disallowed for starters?

Befnal 5:43 Mon Mar 9
Re: Marriner

Isn't it time we started using 'neutral' referees, i.e. those from Europe who are not likely to be predisposed to giving decisions in favour of the usual suspects?

Let's be honest it's been going on for years, when Liverpool were the team in the 70's and early 80's every decision to be made seemed to go in their favour as it did with Manchester United from the 90's onwards.

The fact that it is so blatant now only leads to the conclusions that either some referees are more incompetent than we could ever imagine, or that they cheat, else are on the take.

Hammers1993 5:35 Mon Mar 9
Re: Marriner

Up their wages?!

Seriously they can't do the job properly now, they don't deserve a pay rise, if anything these muppets should get a pay cut. Any other job in the world if you performed at that level you would not get a pay rise.

Something needs to be done and I genuinely believe it's video replay from an official with an earpeice. Goal line technology has worked so no reason why that wouldn't.

Alex V 5:34 Mon Mar 9
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I don't think the standard of refereeing has dipped at all.

The goal line technology is a good example - after years of complaining about how unfair it was, it's been brought in. But it barely makes a jot of difference to the game, and the media and fans have just moved on to other perceived injustices. To me, it shows that people just want to complain.

For the whole time I've watched the game, offsides have been given wrongly. The whole time. And presumably for the rest of footballing history as well. By linesmen specifically there to make those decisions. It vastly outweighs issues like diving or penalty calls in the way that it affects actual results. So why hasn't there been a deafening roar for higher standards in this area? Because it's a relatively boring topic that doesn't create headlines. That's how fickle and media-led the debate is.

That's why we get a thread castigating Marriner when he didn't even make the most key decision in the Chelsea match, which was the offside for their goal.

The best solution imo is for the media and fans to concentrate on the areas of the game that are enjoyable, like player skill and competition, and worry less about the standard of refereeing. Which to me is an inherently uninteresting and unsolvable issue that has been around as long as the sport itself.

Sarah Ballpalsy 5:20 Mon Mar 9
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I would do with Refs the same as i'd do with politicians.

I'd massively increase their salary.

We might actually get some decent people taking it seriously for a change.


I think most agree that it would be good to get ex players trained as refs - well they won't wont while the money isn't nearly as good as say media work.

Same with Politicians. Any one worth their salt can earn a lot more within business than politics. Up their wages massively I say.

fred flinstone 5:16 Mon Mar 9
Re: Marriner

The standard of refereeing in the Premiership effectively makes every game a LOTTERY unless you're playing Chelsea, Arsenal, Man U/C or Spurs of course

Hammers1993 4:37 Mon Mar 9
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This season has been one of the worst for refereeing decisions that I can remember.

Goal Line Technology has solved that issue but it's basic things week in week out that the ref / lino are getting wrong.

Numerous offsides in each game wrong.

Penaltys not given (Smalling against Newcastle)

Penaltys given (Rooney against Cambridge.. Theme here with Man U..)

Diving is worse than ever.

Tackles being given yellows reds uneccesary v tackles going without any card what so ever.

Something NEEDS to change as although people will argue it cancels itself out, that is an absolute joke of an excuse because it shouldn't be happening full stop, shouldn't be a case of "evens out at the end of the season"

You train and plan all week for a game just for the referee to shit on it and unfairly come away without the 3 points you deserve in most cases.

They surely have to look into live video replay for maybe a 5th official just to have a word with the ref, would take less than 2 seconds if the 5th official watches the replay instantly.

The White Horse 6:15 Mon Mar 9
Re: Marriner

This C**T could'nt refereee a cock fight.
And Chelsea is his favourite team - I remember the dodgy penalty he gave a while back at Stamford Bridge v WBA? Total fucking dive in the last minute and he gives it. If this shithead is a referee I'm a fucking professor.

Eerie Descent 3:17 Thu Mar 5
Re: Marriner

I don't believe refs are crooked, I just think they are wary of upsetting the big clubs, as it could cost them their jobs.

Look at last night, if those decisions had gone the other way, Mourinho would have been screaming blue murder, it'd be all over the press, questions would be asked, and he probably wouldn't ref a game for a few weeks.

Happens to us, and apart from a few grumbles from our manager, that's the end of it. So I don't really blame them in the main. However, Marriner definitely has it in for us in particular, has done for years.

Damo 2:39 Thu Mar 5
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He's hated us since he had to come to our game vs Stoke under Zola 3 hours early to go round the ground approving those fucking stupid SBOBET temporary ad hoardings to stop their long throw (they still beat us and outplayed us).

I'll never forget that, he gave us fuck all and even moved one of the hoardings out of the way for Delap to do his long throw at one stage.

I hated Zola for allowing us to get involved with shit like that and we're still paying the price today.

alphaharps 2:23 Thu Mar 5
Re: Marriner

we may as well admit, that referees are crooked. Why shouldnt they be, football is multi million business

busheyhammer85 2:03 Thu Mar 5
Re: Marriner

I thought he was piss poor last night.

And i was in attendance.

Serious Drinking 2:02 Thu Mar 5
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ludo21 12:39 Thu Mar 5

It was Neil Swarbrick. He was one of the officials last night too, 4th offical I think.

Serious Drinking 2:01 Thu Mar 5
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DJH 11:53 Thu Mar 5

From what I remember, Cresswell to his credit barely reacted and got on with the match. Contrast that with the rolling around screaming, slaming the floor crying that some grown men who play for Chelsea were up to with minimal contact. Why do they do it? Because it works.

Someone might as well have given Ivanovic a whistle last night, he stopped playing and called several decisions.

jonthehammer 1:39 Thu Mar 5
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DukeofDevo 11:04 Thu Mar 5
Re: Marriner
Agreed mate, can count about 6 or 7 right howlers just off top of my head now.

Its a joke

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